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Post by Joerg Sprave on Mar 13, 2018 6:13:57 GMT
My dear fellow Union members, the time has come, we will reach 10k members today. Therefore it is time to announce our existence to YouTube. I plan to do this in the form of an open letter, which I will publish and also send to all of the journalists that have contacted me since. Here is my proposed text, and I would appreciate if you guys would go over it and suggest changes. Keep in mind I am not a native speaker. To The Executive Management Board of YouTube, Inc. Susan Wojcicki, CEO 901 Cherry Avenue San Bruno, California, United States Letter of Introduction Dear Madams and Sirs, dear Ms. Wojcicki, this is a formal letter of introduction. The "YouTubers Union" is a community group that advocates changes of certain policies and processes YouTube currently employs. We protect and fight for the rights of YouTube partners ("creators") and users. We currently have just over 10,000 members. You can read more about us at www.youtubersunion.org. At this point we would like to invite you opening up discussions with us. You may do this by any way you like. Our contact addresses are listed below. We are looking forward to positive and open discussions as we have a common goal - the success of YouTube, a platform we all use, enhance and enjoy. Yours sincerely The Youtubers Union Jörg Sprave, initiator jsprave@macrosystem.de
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Post by crul on Mar 13, 2018 8:26:58 GMT
Great, the only suggestion I have is to get any kind of official channel (like info@youtubersunion.org email) to centralize communications.
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Post by bigmonmulgrew on Mar 13, 2018 10:06:43 GMT
I am preparing an analysis of our vieweship following. Perhaps including our influence numbers would be good. I can get that finished today, send it out for Peer review. You would be really surprised on how large our combined influence is
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Post by vlasta on Mar 13, 2018 14:16:33 GMT
Members should "open copy" this to their local and national press and radio/TV with a covering explanation stating Jorge has sent to YouTube. On the same day Jorge sends it. Also insert it on our channels - all videos taken private and one video remains showing that letter only. Re-Tweet it if you tweet, share it on FB and Reddit - make it viral!
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Post by wrestlingambassador on Mar 13, 2018 15:53:00 GMT
Yeah it's a good message to send about, but as for this "we would like to invite you opening up discussions with us". Expect to be only getting vague, scripted copy and paste lines from this talk. Judging by past interviews.
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Post by coffekanon on Mar 13, 2018 16:02:16 GMT
Looks good.
A corteous and formal introduction.
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Post by crul on Mar 13, 2018 19:30:33 GMT
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Post by maximgunn on Mar 13, 2018 19:58:13 GMT
This is now a game of chess, as such I think we should be reluctant to detail strategy in a public setting. If any senior member of the league wants my 2 cents, I'll send you a PM.
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Post by bigmonmulgrew on Mar 13, 2018 23:35:31 GMT
So do we still go ahead with the letter just to formalise things now that youtube got in touch/
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Post by wrestlingambassador on Mar 14, 2018 1:17:07 GMT
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Post by squidgamer on Mar 27, 2018 15:39:02 GMT
Great, the only suggestion I have is to get any kind of official channel (like info@youtubersunion.org email) to centralize communications. That would be a good idea. A channel focused as both a representative of the Union and to communicate both to the Public and of course communicate with members.
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Post by douglasjack on Jun 1, 2018 19:52:59 GMT
COUNTERBALANCING COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT VERSUS CENSORSHIP Thank you Jorg Sprave for well-expressed arguments for restructuring You-Tube's monetization policy rationally so all can contribute. The issue of censorship is world-web-wide for You-tube, Facebook & all web-sites with comment-sections or creative-platforms. We should be calling into question Censorship processes of: assessment, implementation, engagement & even the need for censorship. All humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' ancestor cultured Council-Process, whereby all were able or could be asked with Dialectic-Rights to express themselves through discovery-circles of Both-sided, Equal-time, Recorded & Public (or confidential) Dialogues. In our colonial 'exogenous' (L 'other-generated') system, there’s a combination of massive western monetary-oligarch command & control in a trickledown Finance-Media-Religion-Education-Military-Industrial-Legislative-Complex. The wealthy advertisers are just submissive pawns in this big-money colonial-oligarch system & You-Tube is just one of their acquired media controls. Malicious content must be addressed but more through exposing it for its idiocy than through banning or covering it up. We want those with malicious intent to be publicly exposed, so that all may identify those involved, take-protective & even healing measures, rather than hidden behind Censorship 'blinds'. Two unused counterbalances to the problem of 'malicious-content' are for each web-site including You-Tube to integrate: 1) popular feedback & rating-system's software of on-line text & video 'debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' = 'the-fight') & 2) Up, down & neutral arrows with cumulative numbers for each, integrated for both the original video, article or above each comment. An ISSUE icon enables viewers or readers to register their desire to provide content authors: a) exemplary approval & assistance in furthering research etc., b) offer for editing assistance to improve communication c) objection to content as malicious or damaging. The Issues process involves: 1) writing an online Challenge statement under the Icon ISSUES section referring to a), b), or c). The Challenge should be at least a couple of paragraphs long. Other readers & viewers are provided the same opportunity to a), b) or c) & even debate the Challenge. When an Issue truly is malicious then the momentum of 10s to 1000s of openly displayed assessments at a specifically chosen tolerance level, require the author (original article, video or comment) to publicly 'debate' in an online text or in such as audio or video. Comments & Content are thus rarely removed but couched in these equally expressed debates. Issues of lack of personal approval for images of 'self' presented & open calls for violence would be censored. Participation in You-Tube or other web-sites would require that one agree to the public debate process or have their comments removed. Debate process involves collection of malicious complaint, online debate among complainers & choice of a spokesperson. Debate requires the above Challenge Statement, Caucusing of complainers, then scheduling date, time & duration (typically 90 minutes). The online debate software organizes the sequence & recording. Debate, if employed & published widely by community animists, captures popular attention, develops the default worldview & thereby becomes the appropriate level of governance from which people are taking their clues & action. Human mind works 'dialectically' by contrasting & comparing both sides of complex issues in order to build its knowledge systems & make decisions. We want the other side to express, expose their faulty oligarch-directed logics, so sometimes it is essential to lead such confused submissives, 'down-the-garden-path' where they begin to understand the contradictions in their thoughts. Both-Sides-Now is one technique which simplifies debate process so all can engage. sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
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