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Post by bigmonmulgrew on Mar 12, 2018 19:21:39 GMT
I'm all for making the rules clearer to say "no dead people / dead animals". That should solve the problem right there. In the right context neither is an issue itself. For example I watched a video the other day on how to butcher and prepare a rabbit. There are plenty of instances where showing a dead body or dead animal would be ok given the correct context
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Post by maximgunn on Mar 13, 2018 0:36:51 GMT
Define: dead animal.
No Barbecues? No football? No makeup? No tattoos? No tide-pods?
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Post by thorski on Mar 13, 2018 2:52:12 GMT
I think everything discussed relies heavily under the concept of having a more detailed rule upon dead bodies, guns, and etc.
This from my point of view, bear in mind.
I don't think guns are entertaining, neither do I feel that they should be treated as such. A gun is way of having over development in deaths. Look at any cases of people who've broken into homes and got shot or vice versa. I think bodies don't belong on Youtube. UNLESS it's highly and purely based on getting knowledge, what knowledge? Idk. Maybe how to treat a gun wound since that is such a possibility atm. Now drugs... I highly believe that by watching someone intake a drug might actually lessen the want for it. HELL I even watch PsychedSubstance or Veenoeye(?), but I don't have the want for any drugs. Except those I have for back pains and my lower case of ADD. So shoot me dead if I'm wrong, but videos about the science about drugs, and what it does to your body, aren't bad.
That's my opinions, as much as I would like to understand otherwise, I can't.
A platform like Youtube should be treated as any other entertainment site(fx. Netflix)!
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Post by bigmonmulgrew on Mar 13, 2018 8:29:00 GMT
Netflix has more restrictions, it isnt user created content. What Netflix does have that Youtube should have and doesn't is a way for me to effectively filter content I find offensive and to better find content in categories I like. Oh and another big thing netflix has that Youtube does not. If content gets classifieds as adult, the classification board comes back to them with the rating they intend to apply and tellls them why.
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Post by coffekanon on Mar 13, 2018 12:12:48 GMT
I don't think guns are entertaining, neither do I feel that they should be treated as such. A gun is way of having over development in deaths. So hunting, sports shooting, and entertainment channels like Demolition Ranch should be banned because you have this paranoid belief that guns magically influence people to become killers? Look at Switzerland. There's an automatic rifle in almost every home since Switzerlands defense strategy builds on civilian militias. It's not even a choice for Swiss citizens who have undergone military training to keep their rifle in their home, it's MANDATORY (they'd be breaking the law if they tried to get rid of their guns). Yet Switzerland doesn't have anywhere near the amount of shootings as the U.S does. The Czech republic is another country with very wide gun distribution among the population (laws are also quite similar to the U.S). Again they don't have nearly as many fatal shootings. On the flipside, take a look at the genocide of Rwanda, where millions of people were killed in a very short time with almost no firearms involved (most were hacked to death with machetes). The problem isn't guns or youtube channels showing guns. The problem are all those factors that influence people to make the decision to kill other people. In School shootings it's almost invariably a result of years of harassment and bullying between students, along with the shooter exhibiting clear signs of anti-social personality disorders. These are problems that could've been rectified and prevented long before any school shooting take place through counseling, therapy and forcing school management to take further steps in preventing bullying (something that schools in the U.S hardly do at all) When it comes to killing sprees, a disproportionate number of shooters have a military background. Some of them are veterans. They all suffer from a variety of psychological disorders. And what's worse is that they were all screened at some point when joining up, but authorities never took their test results seriously when they could've done so. And when it comes to regular crime, financial incentives are usually the underlying factors since the shooters are members of drug dealing gangs.
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Post by thorski on Mar 13, 2018 14:39:23 GMT
So hunting, sports shooting, and entertainment channels like Demolition Ranch should be banned because you have this paranoid belief that guns magically influence people to become killers You misinterpreted what I said but fine, I never said that guns magically make people killers. It was my way of saying that guns shouldn't be treated as toys, as opposed to a firearm, that is highly deadly if treated badly. That's why I don't think having TV shows that shows guns as a fun perspective is helping. Hey, let's actually go all out and say, that I actually said that guns are killers. But guns aren't going to be killers.. If no one used it, it would be nothing than an object. Guns can't be the killers. But people can. So as I also stated, it's mostly wishful thinking.
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Post by thorski on Mar 13, 2018 14:44:52 GMT
Netflix has more restrictions, it isnt user created content. What Netflix does have that Youtube should have and doesn't is a way for me to effectively filter content I find offensive and to better find content in categories I like. Oh and another big thing netflix has that Youtube does not. If content gets classifieds as adult, the classification board comes back to them with the rating they intend to apply and tellls them why. Ehhh... I just wrote Netflix because it mostly has documentary about almost everything, and it almost always has a show for everyone. Netflix has a huge variety of shows, one that is most likely to appeal to you. The same has Youtube. Game Grumps, Nerdist, Phillip Defranco. All very much good in each their field.
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Post by coffekanon on Mar 13, 2018 14:54:40 GMT
So hunting, sports shooting, and entertainment channels like Demolition Ranch should be banned because you have this paranoid belief that guns magically influence people to become killers You misinterpreted what I said but fine, I never said that guns magically make people killers. It was my way of saying that guns shouldn't be treated as toys, as opposed to a firearm, that is highly deadly if treated badly. That's why I don't think having TV shows that shows guns as a fun perspective is helping. Hey, let's actually go all out and say, that I actually said that guns are killers. But guns aren't going to be killers.. If no one used it, it would be nothing than an object. Guns can't be the killers. But people can. So as I also stated, it's mostly wishful thinking. But guns are fun. You don't go to the shooting range because you expect to have a boring time. You do it because shooting is fun. But you might also note that the absolute majority of channels about guns, also show gun safety and the content creators often make a point about proper gun safety as well.
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